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Lying is not illegal - always scout!
 
jacques
Posts: 332
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:00:10
Man, you are just like kid.
"Ban me if I am not right"?!
Forum is a place to hear different opinions. Don't take personally everything said here and get used to the fact that you (or me, or whoever...) is not always right...
And if someone propose something you can tell us your opinion, but do not act as a judge.
  
pstimpel
Posts: 10622
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:06:13
jacques wrote:

Man, you are just like kid.



Thanks a lot...
  
jespernohr
Posts: 0
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:13:36
Easy now people. Lets settle down a bit and stop the mudslinging. The problem is that we are debating a difference of opinions on something that there currently isn't any rules about. I haven't been able to fidn anything about posting rules in this game, perhaps I am just blind.

Until now there haven't been any reason for a set of rules about the forum etiquette, but it looks like we are in need of some now. This is not something we should do, it is something the admins should make. It is their game, so we are under their rules.

We can all have preferences on how these rules should be, but I think we can all agree on, that it should be rules that continues to endorse a friendly atmosphere that have been part of this game so far.
  
pstimpel
Posts: 10622
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:23:30
jespernohr wrote:

Easy now people. Lets settle down a bit and stop the mudslinging. The problem is that we are debating a difference of opinions on something that there currently isn't any rules about. I haven't been able to fidn anything about posting rules in this game, perhaps I am just blind.

Until now there haven't been any reason for a set of rules about the forum etiquette, but it looks like we are in need of some now. This is not something we should do, it is something the admins should make. It is their game, so we are under their rules.

We can all have preferences on how these rules should be, but I think we can all agree on, that it should be rules that continues to endorse a friendly atmosphere that have been part of this game so far.



  
AncientGreco
Posts: 3094
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:25:54
jespernohr wrote:

Easy now people. Lets settle down a bit and stop the mudslinging. The problem is that we are debating a difference of opinions on something that there currently isn't any rules about. I haven't been able to fidn anything about posting rules in this game, perhaps I am just blind.

Until now there haven't been any reason for a set of rules about the forum etiquette, but it looks like we are in need of some now. This is not something we should do, it is something the admins should make. It is their game, so we are under their rules.

We can all have preferences on how these rules should be, but I think we can all agree on, that it should be rules that continues to endorse a friendly atmosphere that have been part of this game so far.



Thanks alot for! Lot of issues and thoughts have been exchanged - now the Admins are asked, to make a statement on this.
  
jespernohr
Posts: 0
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:30:58
I just found the posting/spamming rules and there is nothing about making a blacklist about liars/cheaters, as long as it isn't political, racist or religious. And spamming isn't allowed either, so watch out for spamming Perhaps these rules need a slight update
  
AncientGreco
Posts: 3094
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:33:10
jespernohr wrote:

I just found the posting/spamming rules and there is nothing about making a blacklist about liars/cheaters, as long as it isn't political, racist or religious.



But isnt blacklisting "somehow" political - from my point of view it is - please, its my opinion
  
Redbirdgrad
Posts: 0
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:45:19
There are 2 problems here that actually need addressed, and both of these are facts and not my opinion.

1. For newbies who have very little money at the beginning of the game, scouting reports can be quite costly. To have to scout each and every player because we can't trust our own community would deter these players from entering the free agency market.

2. For everyone the scouting report isn't even complete, so we still have to trust people on here to tell the truth. The scouting report does not list whether or not certain skills are capped, and an owner could lie about this causing a purchase to be made which wouldn't have if the owner would have told the truth.

For these 2 reasons alone I will never again buy a player from the free agency market because it is too easy to lie and get away with it. Especially when the admin wont do the work to fix this area.
  
jespernohr
Posts: 0
Posted on 2009-08-31 16:50:06
AncientGreco wrote:

jespernohr wrote:

I just found the posting/spamming rules and there is nothing about making a blacklist about liars/cheaters, as long as it isn't political, racist or religious.



But isnt blacklisting "somehow" political - from my point of view it is - please, its my opinion


Not really, if you look at it black and white. Rules have to be so clear that you can look at them black and white, and afterwards there is no doubt about their meaning. Try to put it into political is a matter of interpretation and that is very much a grey area.

I think it is a shame that the admins have stated that it is "okay" to lie and cheat in this game, since it will in the long wrong have a negative influence on the game. Opening up for anarcistic and egocentric behaviour.

I can see how the administrative role would increase, if it was possible to report people for cheating and lying, but isn't worth it in the long run? To say that, that kind of behaviour isn't tolerated and there is consequences if you act like that.

This isn't about making the scout report useless, but the accused managers can just say that they don't want to answer the question and ask the person to scout the player.
  
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Posted on 2009-08-31 16:52:11
Guys, this is getting out of control very quickly, and is going to split the community.

This in-fighting has to stop or the repurcussions will be felt for a long time.

Admin, we really do need your input here, not as emails to the mods or anybody, but here in the forums, for all to see. Otherwise the community is going to suffer
  

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