This doesn't include Drake, so not quite on point, but good to see a comparison of Elliott and Henry by Sport Science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPgIwASMiOc

The things that stuck out to me that show how one dimensional Henry is were the change of direction tests. The slalom weave by Henry is just painful to watch and so was the pitch gate drill. It was like watching someone who has never played football before. Sure his acceleration and power were phenomenal, he may well struggle against bigger NFL LBs and even bigger DL who aren't necessarily going to be blocked out of their holes.

For the whole Dolphins scheme fit bit, assuming they run a zone (no clue so going on what people have said) then Henry would definitely not work for them.

Kagemusha wrote: Gatr22 wrote: Kagemusha wrote: Gatr22 wrote: For you to suggest that Henry is a 'plodder', just means that you didn't watch him much last season. Watch some of his long runs and you will see he is a back that pulls away from dbs, suggesting that his top speed is higher than his 40 time. His long TD run of 74 yards would support this. I look for him to have a pretty good rookie season, much like Gurley last season........who did miss the first 6 games if I remember correctly, before showing his worth. Henry needs to have a long run to build up speed. If you looked at him and not just paid attention to the long run but looked at holes he was running through and quickness acceleration and change of direction skills you could have an idea. He has good top speed (not Chris Johnson-esque but good) but backs dont make their living with top speed. Has poor footwork and poor channge of direction, underlined by bad 20shuttle and 3cone. He is not Gurley by some miles, dont draft him We will agree to disagree and then see how he does. I'm not a big fan of 40 times, 20 shuttle and 3 cone or any other drill you want to run. Pad em up, put a ball in their hands and let's see what they can do on the field in a game situation. I will take a big back that can grab the ball 400 times in a collegiate season or about 30 carries per game with 5.6 yds/carry numbers in the SEC. That's a lot of speedy dbs he is doing that to with his 'poor footwork and poor change of direction'. Touch base with you after the season on this one I'm a fan of displayed atheticism. If you dont display atheticism neither on the field or on the track probably you dont have. I'm not a fan of 40 times as well, I just use them to combine with short shuttle and 3cone to see how much a guy is a straight line runner. After all this I watched again some Henry film: The plodder (how strange you take issue with me mocking one of your favorites, I thought you liked mocking :lol has some wheels once he gets started but it's incredible how he always runs in a straight line (sometimes slightly arched when he runs outside). In your beloved 74 yard run he has a hole two-three yards wide and every member of the front 7 is either blocked or out of position. I mean every member. He meets a safety 20 yards downfield and that's it. It's an amazing running play but it is a complete team effort, henry doesnt do anything special. Disagreeing to agree I would like to know what's your threshold for Henry rookie year, to see if he has a good season or not.

Okay, first of all, I'm not even a Henry fan or Alabama fan. I'm a Gator fan and Bears fan. I do watch a lot of SEC football, I have season tickets for the Gators for the last 20 years. Anyway, back to Henry. I do think he was a steal in the draft. Many people keep calling him a 'power' back. I would call him a load back with explosive potential. More like a Frank Gore. My comparison to Gurley was maybe not fair, Gurley is much better with cuts, agreed. But Gurley was also someone that I thought highly of and many wrote him off. Sometimes backs and other players have an intangible quality that I see. Henry, is kind of different from many power backs. Hand him off the ball 10 times per game and you may be disappointed. Give him the ball 20-30 times and you will see his great and perhaps uncategorized ability to bust a long run. He is solid from top to bottom, which is why many just give him the 'power' back label. But I would suggest he is a power back with home run potential anytime he touches the ball and this does make him different. I would certainly scoop him up in the fantasy draft if he is available round 6 or later, which is about where I scooped up Gurley last season. As for Henry in his rookie year, I've already stated I think he will be in the running for rookie of the year. I think that is already a good threshold, to be in the conversation

Gatr22 wrote: cflames3412 wrote: Whoa there I said Johnny football was a lost cause when did I say Hof potential/potential all pro? Johnny hockey on the other hand is Hof guarantee Right here: cflames3412 wrote: manziel fell into a solid situation somewhat. the browns have one of the most solid o lines in the nfl. but, josh gordon will likely screw himself out of the league like justin blackmon. gordon should, thats right SHOULD be suspended for the year. him and blackmon have failed the same amount of drug tests. if manziel can turn into a pocket passer, which is what the browns need considering the beast o line, he can turn into a hall of famer. if he continues to scramble around and not make bad receivers look good, well his career will be just as long as mr tebow

To even mention Manziel and hall of fame in the same paragraph is just down right embarrassing. I predicted that train wreck based on his work ethics and party habits immediately.

Gatr22 wrote: Gatr22 wrote: cflames3412 wrote: Whoa there I said Johnny football was a lost cause when did I say Hof potential/potential all pro? Johnny hockey on the other hand is Hof guarantee Right here: cflames3412 wrote: manziel fell into a solid situation somewhat. the browns have one of the most solid o lines in the nfl. but, josh gordon will likely screw himself out of the league like justin blackmon. gordon should, thats right SHOULD be suspended for the year. him and blackmon have failed the same amount of drug tests. if manziel can turn into a pocket passer, which is what the browns need considering the beast o line, he can turn into a hall of famer. if he continues to scramble around and not make bad receivers look good, well his career will be just as long as mr tebow To even mention Manziel and hall of fame in the same paragraph is just down right embarrassing. I predicted that train wreck based on his work ethics and party habits immediately.

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Ajayi and Henry are similar backs not the same. J train is more of a shifty guy who can cut and change direction but he is big enough to be considered a power back. Henry is power back plus.