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hosh13
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Posted on 2012-04-16 3:23:25
Finally someone who understands and provides some worthy counter arguments. (@Phi 21)

The seasom ticket holder argument does not work. The game does not consider that sort of thing at all - if it did then the calculations would take that into account. Again, if 1750 VIPs where going to turn up to a 132500 stadium then that's all the VIPs that are going to turn up in any stadium. Saying that Exec and norm people would suddenly be willing to pay VIP prices is a stretch. You might get a few that would normally be in the Exec seating spilling over and a much lesser percentage of norm. Supply and demand also involves what people are prepared to pay.

The hamstringing of noobs is easily avoided in other ways. Give us a bigger starting stadium or whatever - that's easy to get around.

Speaking of hamstringing noobs, I am lucky to be starting out in the sparsely populated Oceania. Central Europe has 6 divisions so no matter how good you are you're years from TD. Imagine when some of the regions have 9 divisions!

  
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Posted on 2012-04-16 4:01:04
hosh13 wrote:

Finally someone who understands and provides some worthy counter arguments. (@Phi 21)

The seasom ticket holder argument does not work. The game does not consider that sort of thing at all - if it did then the calculations would take that into account. Again, if 1750 VIPs where going to turn up to a 132500 stadium then that's all the VIPs that are going to turn up in any stadium. Saying that Exec and norm people would suddenly be willing to pay VIP prices is a stretch. You might get a few that would normally be in the Exec seating spilling over and a much lesser percentage of norm. Supply and demand also involves what people are prepared to pay.

The hamstringing of noobs is easily avoided in other ways. Give us a bigger starting stadium or whatever - that's easy to get around.

Speaking of hamstringing noobs, I am lucky to be starting out in the sparsely populated Oceania. Central Europe has 6 divisions so no matter how good you are you're years from TD. Imagine when some of the regions have 9 divisions!



My arguement about season tickets is meant to show real life situation, which this is not. The extremes to ticket sales again are that everyone buys the cheapest seat they can get, so more than likely no VIP and maybe exec seats are sold. Or all VIP and Exec seats are already sold before season starts and sell out every game. Again, both sides are extreme, what GI provides is somewhat of an average. This gives teams some extra money for VIP and exec seats, which they should since the manager spent lots of money to build them. But they don't automatically sell out every time, making the manager manage how big they decide to build their stadium to maximize their income they way they see fit.
  
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Posted on 2012-04-22 1:58:56
Hosh, please print out and read Spilling the Beans, it is a great source of information about the mechanics of the game.
  
hosh13
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Posted on 2012-04-23 12:41:19
Ok, todays game was with a div 1 team, at their 132,500 stadium on a sunny day - crowd = 9715

Last week I played a div 2 team at their 110,000 seat stadium on a rainy day and got a crowd of 15,697.

Only difference I see is that there is a larger split in rank between me and this div 1 team.

Is that it? Do you get lesser crowds to percieved greater mismatches?
  
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Posted on 2012-04-23 12:49:22
Form of the teams you are playing has an impact too
  

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hosh13
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Posted on 2012-04-23 14:42:11
mrcasado wrote:

Form of the teams you are playing has an impact too



Do games other than league games effect form?
  
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Posted on 2012-04-23 14:44:48
hosh13 wrote:

mrcasado wrote:

Form of the teams you are playing has an impact too



Do games other than league games effect form?



No, just the league
  

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Posted on 2012-04-23 19:49:20
hosh13 wrote:

Ok, todays game was with a div 1 team, at their 132,500 stadium on a sunny day - crowd = 9715

Last week I played a div 2 team at their 110,000 seat stadium on a rainy day and got a crowd of 15,697.

Only difference I see is that there is a larger split in rank between me and this div 1 team.

Is that it? Do you get lesser crowds to percieved greater mismatches?



When the seasonal update was made this friday, the form was reset for all teams.. As mrc already said, the league form determines quite alot.. There is a big difference between late season winning streak and early season with no streak (which is for some stupid reason perceived as what seems like a 8-losing streak :S)
  
hosh13
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Posted on 2012-04-24 18:46:38
Thanks for that - that's no doubt the reason.
  
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Posted on 2012-04-24 20:54:10
I just want to be able to raise ticket prices each season, like they do IRL
  

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