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sh8888
Posts: 0
Posted on 2012-04-14 15:07:20
hosh13 wrote:

For sure.

I intend to build VIPs and see if they always fill no matter what, as it appears they will.

Forgot about suggestions - will go and post there now.

cheers



I noticed that you haven't been around for long, but it's great that you're asking questions and making suggestions.Without wishing to be patronising, there are definitely 2 or 3 things that everybody should do in GI, and you've just hit on one there .... Build your VIP seats like there is no tomorrow ! .. then do the same for Execs. Once you get to full VIP's and Execs then you can start thinking about other things to spend your money on...without VIPs and Execs you'll have no money to spend !!.

The other basic do's and don'ts you probably already know ....don't buy players with big wages ($5k is a good limit), don't buy old players (training slows from 28 onwards) ... old players have little resale value .... DO watch your bank balance very carefully ....do keep reading the rookie forum (and other forums) .... and the best piece of GI advice ever given to me ? .... Don't go Bankrupt ! it's easy to do ... you see new teams and also older teams that should know better going bankrupt all the time.
One last thing ....GI is a game of slowly building and improving ...so do have a lot of patience.
Good luck.
  
projectrracing
Posts: 7952
Posted on 2012-04-15 0:34:25
hosh13 wrote:

My original point stands.

The game should generate a % interset instead of a raw number.

So if there was a 50% local interest then the max possible would be -

1750 VIPs
4500 Execs
60000 norm

That way, if you had 3500 VIP seats and 1000 norm then you'd get -

1750 VIPs and 1000 norm to a 50% local interest game.

Now that would make sense. And encourage managers to build proportionally as they would and do irl.

if that is your point - then please read the FAQ regards crowd calculations, i think you still don't understand how the process works. it is not a raw random number. this must be where your confusion on the subject is starting.

and friendly crowds are normally around 20% of offical games would be.

or do you want the seats to fill 100% before the game engine fills any of the suites and boxes?

unlike the current engine that fills all the seats, suites and boxes evenly to a calculated seat amount?
  
Ebsmurdoc
Posts: 635
Posted on 2012-04-15 7:55:18
projectrracing wrote:

hosh13 wrote:

My original point stands.

The game should generate a % interset instead of a raw number.

So if there was a 50% local interest then the max possible would be -

1750 VIPs
4500 Execs
60000 norm

That way, if you had 3500 VIP seats and 1000 norm then you'd get -

1750 VIPs and 1000 norm to a 50% local interest game.

Now that would make sense. And encourage managers to build proportionally as they would and do irl.

if that is your point - then please read the FAQ regards crowd calculations, i think you still don't understand how the process works. it is not a raw random number. this must be where your confusion on the subject is starting.

and friendly crowds are normally around 20% of offical games would be.

or do you want the seats to fill 100% before the game engine fills any of the suites and boxes?

unlike the current engine that fills all the seats, suites and boxes evenly to a calculated seat amount?



Wondering as well, just like stated above!
  
hosh13
Posts: 2985
Posted on 2012-04-15 11:56:59
So let's say I have a stadium with 3500 VIPs and 1000 norm.

And let's say that after calculations for a league game that the crowd calculation was 66,250 (50% of 132,500).

Do I get 3500 VIPs and 1000 norm or 1750 (50% of 3500) and 1000 to this game?
  
projectrracing
Posts: 7952
Posted on 2012-04-15 12:32:16
you'd max out the lot since 66250 is larger than 4500.

the only time you don't max out the lot is when the stadium capacity is larger than the crowd attending.

hence if you go back to numerous posts in the previous page, you'll see that a full stadium means all seating, suites and boxes are full.

a 16% full stadium has 16% filled seating, suites and boxes.
  
hosh13
Posts: 2985
Posted on 2012-04-15 16:36:15
So then let me attempt again to make my simple point.

That is not the way it should work.

If I had a 132500 stadium that would be half full due to a 50% spectator interest then I would get 1750 VIPs.

Why would I get 3500 VIPs to a stadium without Execs and norm just because there was no other seating? Do you think the Exec and norm people would suddenly be willing to fork out more money?

If there is a 50% spectator interest then the maximum we should be allowed to have in any of the sections is -

1750 VIPs
4500 Execs
60000 norm

no matter what configuration of stadium we have.

Is that clear now?
  
Monkey
Posts: 7
Posted on 2012-04-15 16:41:06
it doesnt matter how you think it should work! this is how it works here and has worked for 4 years accept that and take the recommended advice and just play the game as it is. very little is perfect here but it works, its simple and its fun for the most part. your other option is leaving...
  
hosh13
Posts: 2985
Posted on 2012-04-16 1:19:30
Monkey wrote:

it doesnt matter how you think it should work! this is how it works here and has worked for 4 years accept that and take the recommended advice and just play the game as it is. very little is perfect here but it works, its simple and its fun for the most part. your other option is leaving...



It doesn't matter that you think that it doesn't matter what I think.

It is a simple observation and customer feedback. If you don't want to read it then YOU can leave!

Just take my advice when I tell you that it would be better the way I suggested.
  
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Posted on 2012-04-16 1:54:16
hosh13 wrote:


It doesn't matter that you think that it doesn't matter what I think.

It is a simple observation and customer feedback. If you don't want to read it then YOU can leave!

Just take my advice when I tell you that it would be better the way I suggested.




If I'm reading it correctly, what you propose is very similar to what is currently happening. The big difference I see is that you want the stadium to fill based on percentage and not number. In your example a few posts up, where crowd is determined to be 66250 (half of full stadium), you want seating type to be based on the percentage of the full stadium regardless of how many seats the stadium has. If there are more seats than the number of spectators wanting to attend, then seats are sold based on percentage of total seats sold vs. type of each seat. IRL, maybe more regular seats might sell over VIP seats, but then again, most VIP seats are season purchases by corporations, so they generally are sold all season long. There are arguements, for both ends of the spectrum, the way it's currently handled in GI is acceptable.
Now, if 66250 people want to come to a game and the stadium only holds 13,000 people, then yes, they are going to buy all the seats regardless of cost. There's not going to be any empty seats if that many people are wanting to show up to the game. It's called supply and demand.


Besides, changing the system to what you propose now would hamstring new teams. All teams with large stadiums were built using the current system. If new teams are now forced to build regular seats first, or not get full value for VIP seats in the early days, it will take them longer to catch up to the veteran teams.
  
projectrracing
Posts: 7952
Posted on 2012-04-16 2:51:40
it would've been much clearer to let us know you were originally making a suggestion, since it was 2 pages in on an already established thread about another subject. probably the reason why no one understood you are trying to make a suggestion. i now understand what you are trying to say. but without specifying that you were making a suggestion, then i was assuming you were asking for calification on how the current system works.
  
 
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