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consistency low
 
viktor
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Posted on 2010-08-20 5:57:06
So I have a 1 consistency 5* talent player

From what I understand
If the strength hit a value 14 his strength at the start of each game will swing +-30% between 9.8-18.2


BUT
my guy hit 20 on strength.

Now his initial strength will swing between 14 and 20
My question is will each of those values be with equal probability or the probability of hitting 20 will be 50%?
Or in other words did I waste time training strength upto 20?


(Then again theres peters theory wherein the inconsistency is not applied to individual skills but on the overall initial summated skill value)
  
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Posted on 2010-08-20 6:10:02
My thoughts are consistency has nothing to do with effecting strength or any other individual skill. It's a factor in the equation as to the start game rating for every player you have (as per FAQ). Therefore, while no player can go above 20 in any skill, the start game rating will be adjusted for the player you have by a 19% swing to the positive or negative every game he plays. So, theoretically, he will play 50% of the time above (between 1 and 19%) the normal way he plays (based on bpos and skills, in my humble opinion) and 50% of the time below(between -1 and -19%) the normal way he plays (based on bpos and skills).
  

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Posted on 2010-08-20 6:13:00
The probability would be the same prior to every game, 1/41 chances to get +20% or about 2 1/2 percent of the time in a perfect world
  

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viktor
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Posted on 2010-08-20 6:25:19
What if the trained value was at 20 ?
Does an intial value of 20 now have a 50% probability
  
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Posted on 2010-08-20 6:44:17
viktor wrote:


(Then again theres peters theory wherein the inconsistency is not applied to individual skills but on the overall initial summated skill value)



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viktor
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Posted on 2010-08-20 6:52:33
TheFreakinStud wrote:

viktor wrote:


(Then again theres peters theory wherein the inconsistency is not applied to individual skills but on the overall initial summated skill value)



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In that case does maxing skills out guarantee a 50 % chance of the initial summated value being the maximum?
  
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Posted on 2010-08-20 7:38:37
viktor wrote:

TheFreakinStud wrote:

viktor wrote:


(Then again theres peters theory wherein the inconsistency is not applied to individual skills but on the overall initial summated skill value)



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In that case does maxing skills out guarantee a 50 % chance of the initial summated value being the maximum?



I believe it is applied to a summated value, but not exactly how everyone else thinks. I take it as consistency x percentage up or down x (skills/bpos factor) + physicals + TC to get the start game rating. How they are all added together is certainly up for debate, but if you go by the FAQ, that is how consistency gets factored in. Therefore, while the skills can not go above 20, the consistency factor is still applied to the equation to produce the start game rating.............which has nothing to do with going over 20 in any skill. So, by the transitive property, a low con player can perform better than a high con player. I don't like the 2.5% chance though
  

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viktor
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Posted on 2010-08-20 7:46:53
Gatr22 wrote:

viktor wrote:

TheFreakinStud wrote:

viktor wrote:


(Then again theres peters theory wherein the inconsistency is not applied to individual skills but on the overall initial summated skill value)



Add me to this list.


In that case does maxing skills out guarantee a 50 % chance of the initial summated value being the maximum?



I believe it is applied to a summated value, but not exactly how everyone else thinks. I take it as consistency x percentage up or down x (skills/bpos factor) + physicals + TC to get the start game rating. How they are all added together is certainly up for debate, but if you go by the FAQ, that is how consistency gets factored in. Therefore, while the skills can not go above 20, the consistency factor is still applied to the equation to produce the start game rating.............which has nothing to do with going over 20 in any skill. So, by the transitive property, a low con player can perform better than a high con player. I don't like the 2.5% chance though



That was my interpretation too when i read/reread the faq.....but over the last few weeks I have noticed that every time someone talks about consistency, there are people( no offense meant) that start talking about the "hard cap" of 0 and 20 as if to suggest consistency affects initial value of individual skills.


PS I have not read the admin post that "revealed" the hard caps, nor do I know the context in which they said that
  
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Posted on 2010-08-20 7:52:40
"while the performance of the player with consistency 1 will vary randomly from -20% to +20% of his basic performance rating in each game."

Taken from FAQ. Your player of 1 con will have a 48.8% chance of receiving a 1-20% increase in his basic performance rating, a 48.8% chance of receiving a 1-20% decrease in his basic performance rating and a 2.4% chance of playing as he is normally capable of playing. How everyone chooses to interpret the rest of the equation if up to the individual manager. However, the FAQ does address how consistency is used pretty clearly. It's a factor in the equation used to create the start game rating for every player starting
  

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