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Consistency vs. BPOS
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TheFreakinStud
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Posted on 2009-10-27 19:05:00
So I've got a bit of a dilemma. I have two very good players on my squad that have relatively low consistency, 7. I'm trying to decide between starting them or starting two other players that have high consistency, 17 and 19. The problem being the two players with high consistency have 3* talent, and the players with 7 consistency have 3.5 and 4* talent. All else being equal, which ones would you start?
  
Jinto
Posts: 3527
Posted on 2009-10-27 19:18:01
Well im going to start the guys that give me the best chance to win and to me that is starting the Guys with higher Cons but everyone has there own views on starting either group
  
mdjseymour
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Posted on 2009-10-27 19:30:47
to me it depends on position, and other stats.... if there identical apart from consistency and talent, then i would just base it on position as to whether i want consistency or not..
  
Jinto
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Posted on 2009-10-27 19:38:04
mdjseymour wrote:

to me it depends on position, and other stats.... if there identical apart from consistency and talent, then i would just base it on position as to whether i want consistency or not..



Yea its hard to really pick with out know skills and there starting spot but i go with the player that has done the most for me
  
stoo12009
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Posted on 2009-10-27 20:15:18
BPOS everyday of the week
  
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Posted on 2009-10-27 20:37:01
Why don't you start one of each and see who performs better? I know it's not an exact comparison, but might show you something
  
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Dragon
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Posted on 2009-10-27 21:19:06
from what i have read here is how i see consistency being formulated. i'm gonna use a maxed 5 star for easier math. so for a guy with 20 in a skill and 20 consistency he will play like he has 20 in that skill every time. now a player with 20 in a skill and 1 consistency he will normally play like he has 16.7 roughly for a skill because of the 20% variable (if you add 20% you get to 20 skill max ability and if you subtract 20% he plays like 13.3 for that skill) now a player with 20 in a skill and 10 consistency he will see roughly half the variable +-10% so he will normally play like he has 18.2 roughly for a skill giving him a playing range of 16.4 - 20. based on this i would toss the 3.5 star based on math give the random number average he will play worse then your 3 stars even when maxed your 4 star can over come the consistency factor only when maxed out so long term he has possibilities.if the 4 star is young and you can max his skills that you need keep him if not able to reach max then 3 stars are better IMO.
  
mdjseymour
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Posted on 2009-10-27 21:33:18
Dragon wrote:

from what i have read here is how i see consistency being formulated. i'm gonna use a maxed 5 star for easier math. so for a guy with 20 in a skill and 20 consistency he will play like he has 20 in that skill every time. now a player with 20 in a skill and 1 consistency he will normally play like he has 16.7 roughly for a skill because of the 20% variable (if you add 20% you get to 20 skill max ability and if you subtract 20% he plays like 13.3 for that skill) now a player with 20 in a skill and 10 consistency he will see roughly half the variable +-10% so he will normally play like he has 18.2 roughly for a skill giving him a playing range of 16.4 - 20. based on this i would toss the 3.5 star based on math give the random number average he will play worse then your 3 stars even when maxed your 4 star can over come the consistency factor only when maxed out so long term he has possibilities.if the 4 star is young and you can max his skills that you need keep him if not able to reach max then 3 stars are better IMO.



think your maths is a little bit off...

taken from the FAQ:

the performance of the player with consistency 1 will vary randomly from -20% to +20% of his basic performance rating in each game

this means over a season the performance of the 2 players will be comparable, BUT while the consistency 20 will always play the same, the consistency 1 player may play one game at only 80% of his best (so in your example 16 skill) while the next match he may play at 120% (so in your example 24 skill)



Personally i like having consistent lines, while im open to having some variability in players like KR, WR etc.. where i have more than one on the pitch at a time...
  
TheFreakinStud
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Posted on 2009-10-27 21:54:02
mdjseymour wrote:

Dragon wrote:

from what i have read here is how i see consistency being formulated. i'm gonna use a maxed 5 star for easier math. so for a guy with 20 in a skill and 20 consistency he will play like he has 20 in that skill every time. now a player with 20 in a skill and 1 consistency he will normally play like he has 16.7 roughly for a skill because of the 20% variable (if you add 20% you get to 20 skill max ability and if you subtract 20% he plays like 13.3 for that skill) now a player with 20 in a skill and 10 consistency he will see roughly half the variable +-10% so he will normally play like he has 18.2 roughly for a skill giving him a playing range of 16.4 - 20. based on this i would toss the 3.5 star based on math give the random number average he will play worse then your 3 stars even when maxed your 4 star can over come the consistency factor only when maxed out so long term he has possibilities.if the 4 star is young and you can max his skills that you need keep him if not able to reach max then 3 stars are better IMO.



think your maths is a little bit off...

taken from the FAQ:

the performance of the player with consistency 1 will vary randomly from -20% to +20% of his basic performance rating in each game

this means over a season the performance of the 2 players will be comparable, BUT while the consistency 20 will always play the same, the consistency 1 player may play one game at only 80% of his best (so in your example 16 skill) while the next match he may play at 120% (so in your example 24 skill)



Personally i like having consistent lines, while im open to having some variability in players like KR, WR etc.. where i have more than one on the pitch at a time...



Hmm..the players would be competing for a spot as a defensive end or right guard. Which makes me lean towards the 3* talent guys..

If we convert BPOS into the 20 point system GI uses, then 3* would become a 16, 3.5* a 17, and 4* an 18. I'd give up one point in tackling for a 10 point gain in Consistency if their talents were the same. Since the Admin stated we should consider BPOS like a primary skill, I guess I could give up 1 point in it for a 10 point gain in Consistency as well.
  
Dragon
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Posted on 2009-10-27 22:13:53
mdjseymour wrote:

Dragon wrote:

from what i have read here is how i see consistency being formulated. i'm gonna use a maxed 5 star for easier math. so for a guy with 20 in a skill and 20 consistency he will play like he has 20 in that skill every time. now a player with 20 in a skill and 1 consistency he will normally play like he has 16.7 roughly for a skill because of the 20% variable (if you add 20% you get to 20 skill max ability and if you subtract 20% he plays like 13.3 for that skill) now a player with 20 in a skill and 10 consistency he will see roughly half the variable +-10% so he will normally play like he has 18.2 roughly for a skill giving him a playing range of 16.4 - 20. based on this i would toss the 3.5 star based on math give the random number average he will play worse then your 3 stars even when maxed your 4 star can over come the consistency factor only when maxed out so long term he has possibilities.if the 4 star is young and you can max his skills that you need keep him if not able to reach max then 3 stars are better IMO.



think your maths is a little bit off...

taken from the FAQ:

the performance of the player with consistency 1 will vary randomly from -20% to +20% of his basic performance rating in each game

this means over a season the performance of the 2 players will be comparable, BUT while the consistency 20 will always play the same, the consistency 1 player may play one game at only 80% of his best (so in your example 16 skill) while the next match he may play at 120% (so in your example 24 skill)



Personally i like having consistent lines, while im open to having some variability in players like KR, WR etc.. where i have more than one on the pitch at a time...




well the math isn't off it my ability to clearly articulate were the misunderstanding lies because in none of my examples can a player get 24 skill
  
 
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