megatronisabeast wrote: I was sad to hear about Manny Ramirez. I don't know what to think. I hope he didn't take it to for performance enhancing on the diamond but i don't know.

Well its just kinda hard to think he would take it cause when player start taking it they get a lot bigger like bonds or have a large numbers increase and with manny you dont see any of that while hes got drops in numbers cause he dont want to play but with me its always wait intill you hear the whole story before i pass any judgment unless other people in the media or public that disown the player once something bad come out about them

the media is a market all about bad news someone is charge with using PED front page someone is show that they didnt take PED thats deep in the paper somewhere which most wont read

buckeye1022 wrote: If it actually was a women's fertility pill that forced him to fail the test, then I've got nothing else to think than he was on PED's and tried to cover it up. If you look at his stats last year, he went CRAZY once he got to L.A. Not saying he did them, not saying he didn't, I don't know what to believe. Overall, there is no one in baseball that I'm believing wasn't on something at this point, and that includes people like Griffey who are likely clean.

Id bet the farm that Griffey was/is always clean as for Manny only reason his numbers got better is that he was liked and he didnt want to play for Boston and the sox didn't want him to play anymore either so just tank the season hope for a trade then bust your ass making them regret the trade

but as you said im not claiming manny did or didnt do them just would lean towards not doing them as we dont know the whole story and im not a fan that says everyone is dirty intill proven clean cause there are people that dont need to use them

what gets me is there testing catches Manny but not these Triple A guys that are fighting to get into the pros i still say its selective results that they release