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Stafford highest-paid player in the NFL
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Pigment
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Posted on 2017-08-29 15:08:05
Lions managment made my day
  
1934lions
Posts: 3526
Posted on 2017-08-29 15:39:05
Made my day as well. Wait for the contracts for the Falcons and Packers next, they'll be interesting.
  
bghandras
Posts: 841
Posted on 2017-08-29 16:06:42
I think Stafford played REALLY well last season. I was extremely impressed with his plays. Also if i was asked to pick which QB is best to build around a team (considering age and quality of play), i would probably go with him. But man, 27 million a year is a huge number, and represents 16% of the projected salary cap for next season. Overthecap.com did an analysis which suggests superbowl winning teams used max around 10% of the salary cap in the salary cap era for a single player. So that 16% means he will not win anything for a long time. Maybe when his cap charge drops to 13% of the projected cap by the end of that contract...
  
Whammy Business
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Posted on 2017-08-31 23:01:00
bghandras wrote:

I think Stafford played REALLY well last season. I was extremely impressed with his plays. Also if i was asked to pick which QB is best to build around a team (considering age and quality of play), i would probably go with him. But man, 27 million a year is a huge number, and represents 16% of the projected salary cap for next season. Overthecap.com did an analysis which suggests superbowl winning teams used max around 10% of the salary cap in the salary cap era for a single player. So that 16% means he will not win anything for a long time. Maybe when his cap charge drops to 13% of the projected cap by the end of that contract...



What's the alternative?
  
BSwagger
Posts: 1280
Posted on 2017-08-31 23:23:01
It's just the way of the NFL. Do I think Stafford is the best QB, no. He is a really good QB but not great but in the end he will only hold this title a short while. The contracts just keep growing and getting bigger each and every time someone new signs.
  
bghandras
Posts: 841
Posted on 2017-09-01 9:41:52
Whammy Business wrote:

bghandras wrote:

I think Stafford played REALLY well last season. I was extremely impressed with his plays. Also if i was asked to pick which QB is best to build around a team (considering age and quality of play), i would probably go with him. But man, 27 million a year is a huge number, and represents 16% of the projected salary cap for next season. Overthecap.com did an analysis which suggests superbowl winning teams used max around 10% of the salary cap in the salary cap era for a single player. So that 16% means he will not win anything for a long time. Maybe when his cap charge drops to 13% of the projected cap by the end of that contract...



What's the alternative?



The alternative is not signing him, draft a QB, assume it will work well (big if), and have a superbowl window at the backend of the rookie deal. So it is pretty similar payout as paying Stafford, as there would be no superbowl window for about 3 years, and the window would open for 1 or 2 years. So if sign or release are the options, then i think the decision looks fine.
The catch is that the above options are not mutually exclusive in theory, as long as the big deal is a year on year basis like Kapernicks was or Daltons is. The rookie can be groomed while Stafford is there. (See what Kansas is doing?) The problem with Stafford contract that the guarantees makes that play impossible. Stafford will be paid no matter what, so the Lions cant go the rookie route anytime in about next 4 years.
  
Whammy Business
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Posted on 2017-09-01 14:18:07
bghandras wrote:

The alternative is not signing him, draft a QB, assume it will work well (big if), and have a superbowl window at the backend of the rookie deal. So it is pretty similar payout as paying Stafford, as there would be no superbowl window for about 3 years, and the window would open for 1 or 2 years. So if sign or release are the options, then i think the decision looks fine.
The catch is that the above options are not mutually exclusive in theory, as long as the big deal is a year on year basis like Kapernicks was or Daltons is. The rookie can be groomed while Stafford is there. (See what Kansas is doing?) The problem with Stafford contract that the guarantees makes that play impossible. Stafford will be paid no matter what, so the Lions cant go the rookie route anytime in about next 4 years.



The alternative is to cut loose the best quarterback Detroit has had since Bobby Layne. That's not how you win, regardless of what over some website percentage says.
  
bghandras
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Posted on 2017-09-01 18:08:29
That is not correct. You may have missed my statement of loving Stafford as a QB and recommend building around him. But the team could have done a better job at explaining their plan B and C and agree to a better contract. The team carries most of the risk associated with the contract, so it is not a fair deal in my opinion as long as both Lions and Stafford wants to win the Superbowl.
  
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Posted on 2017-09-01 18:27:07
bghandras wrote:

That is not correct. You may have missed my statement of loving Stafford as a QB and recommend building around him. But the team could have done a better job at explaining their plan B and C and agree to a better contract. The team carries most of the risk associated with the contract, so it is not a fair deal in my opinion as long as both Lions and Stafford wants to win the Superbowl.



I think he is being paid a premium to play without serious odds on a SB. There are several qb needy teams in the league. Either the Broncos or the Teams would be in the SB conversation with a QB like Stafford.

The agents likely know this and leveraged it for more money.
  
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Whammy Business
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Posted on 2017-09-01 18:33:54
bghandras wrote:

That is not correct. You may have missed my statement of loving Stafford as a QB and recommend building around him. But the team could have done a better job at explaining their plan B and C and agree to a better contract. The team carries most of the risk associated with the contract, so it is not a fair deal in my opinion as long as both Lions and Stafford wants to win the Superbowl.



That's simply not realistic. The Lions have zero leverage when it comes to Matthew Stafford. None.
  
 
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