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UK NT Coach - S21
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Posted on 2016-01-26 15:31:29
Didnt abcat do it also ?
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:00:53
Phiba wrote:

paulo187 wrote:

Phiba wrote:

I'd like to have another shot at it at some point but I know at present I wouldn't have the time to commit to it properly.

I'd like to see Cam or Itch take the job. Abcat, MrC or Ray would be great candidates as well but i'm not sure if they're interested.

I don't know really if it's a blessing or a curse that we have so many good managers who could take up the role, as I do wonder whether we would've added to the bulging trophy case in recent seasons if we'd consistently had the same manager for a few cycles in a row



I'm not sure a consistent manager would have made any difference. The main core of the players has been the same for many years and they've done well, but the UK is in a transitional period at the moment where a lot of the key names are on their way out and the replacements, whilst good, just aren't quite at that world beating level yet (the TE position, for example, is going to be much weaker once Leonard has to be dropped). That coupled with other teams hitting their stride in terms of player development (Italy, for example), means it's less of a walkover in the WC as it maybe used to be.

I did OK to get to where I did with them, but also think I could/should have gone further (didn't help that some div 3 French team hit 20 stamina on the best DE before the WC finals...), but I think next year will be a tough season for whoever takes the job.



My comments weren't meant to be a slight against any 1 cycle managers, after all I was a 1 cycle manager as was Rocky and he won it all, so I hope they didn't cause any offence.

My thoughts were that while a lot of UK mangers know of top players such as Leonard they don't know the skills for these players, so every cycle a new manager has to get to grips with the entire team again. Plus there is a very large pool of talent not in the team to consider as well. If the same manager continues then they already know the areas that need to be improved and the weaknesses from the previous cycle. For example, you know about that DL who was trained up to level 20 stam in the last cycle but a new manager might not spot that or consider it of that much importance. If a manager coached the NT for a few cycles they would have a better idea of how the NT players are trained by their owners and how they've been developed during the last cycle. I think this in turn would lead to a stronger NT in a time of flux when more and more UK NT regulars are ageing out of the NT.

There's always going to be a lot of competition for the job as it's a coveted role so it's rare that the same manager keeps the job for more than 1 cycle (I think MrC might be the only one who has). However, I do think that generally NT managers of smaller nations who continually coach the NT have a better overall understanding of their NT then 1 cycle NT managers.

Just my opinion though





No offense caused (at least to me anyway), was just adding my own initial thoughts to it all.

You may be right that a repeating manager could have a better idea of things in general. Maybe I should apply again then!
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:05:43
paulo187 wrote:

Phiba wrote:

paulo187 wrote:

Phiba wrote:

I'd like to have another shot at it at some point but I know at present I wouldn't have the time to commit to it properly.

I'd like to see Cam or Itch take the job. Abcat, MrC or Ray would be great candidates as well but i'm not sure if they're interested.

I don't know really if it's a blessing or a curse that we have so many good managers who could take up the role, as I do wonder whether we would've added to the bulging trophy case in recent seasons if we'd consistently had the same manager for a few cycles in a row



I'm not sure a consistent manager would have made any difference. The main core of the players has been the same for many years and they've done well, but the UK is in a transitional period at the moment where a lot of the key names are on their way out and the replacements, whilst good, just aren't quite at that world beating level yet (the TE position, for example, is going to be much weaker once Leonard has to be dropped). That coupled with other teams hitting their stride in terms of player development (Italy, for example), means it's less of a walkover in the WC as it maybe used to be.

I did OK to get to where I did with them, but also think I could/should have gone further (didn't help that some div 3 French team hit 20 stamina on the best DE before the WC finals...), but I think next year will be a tough season for whoever takes the job.



My comments weren't meant to be a slight against any 1 cycle managers, after all I was a 1 cycle manager as was Rocky and he won it all, so I hope they didn't cause any offence.

My thoughts were that while a lot of UK mangers know of top players such as Leonard they don't know the skills for these players, so every cycle a new manager has to get to grips with the entire team again. Plus there is a very large pool of talent not in the team to consider as well. If the same manager continues then they already know the areas that need to be improved and the weaknesses from the previous cycle. For example, you know about that DL who was trained up to level 20 stam in the last cycle but a new manager might not spot that or consider it of that much importance. If a manager coached the NT for a few cycles they would have a better idea of how the NT players are trained by their owners and how they've been developed during the last cycle. I think this in turn would lead to a stronger NT in a time of flux when more and more UK NT regulars are ageing out of the NT.

There's always going to be a lot of competition for the job as it's a coveted role so it's rare that the same manager keeps the job for more than 1 cycle (I think MrC might be the only one who has). However, I do think that generally NT managers of smaller nations who continually coach the NT have a better overall understanding of their NT then 1 cycle NT managers.

Just my opinion though





No offense caused (at least to me anyway), was just adding my own initial thoughts to it all.

You may be right that a repeating manager could have a better idea of things in general. Maybe I should apply again then!



Yes, you should, but you won't be able to avenge your loss to me..........I am not applying this time around. If you get the gig, you will have to take it out on the new manager for team USA
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:17:35
Your biggest area to address so far is the ages

I think Rocky or Ab OR Phiba would make excellent NT Managers this time around

I am not putting my name in this time around
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:30:34
I personally don't see the continuity being too much of a problem, provided that each UK NT coach passes on their observations and planned ideas to the next.

We have an excellent community when it comes to tracking down the talent, so I don't see how this would be a problem.
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:35:26
Yeah i agree, if everyone works together and we make the roster younger with everyone having an input the UK Team could be a force this season

I agree Cameron
  
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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:37:04
Dan22 wrote:

Yeah i agree, if everyone works together and we make the roster younger with everyone having an input the UK Team could be a force this season

I agree Cameron



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Posted on 2016-01-26 17:42:02
My team has 2 United Kingdom / Maybe 3 United Kingdom National Team Players on It

And a few up and coming Ones

Kyle Sims (LB) 26 "Should be National Team
Tyler Matthewson (31) WR "Is on the National Team & is multi positional beast"

Alexander Rowlands (27) SF (Maybe / a player to consider)

Bradley May (TE) 25 (Maybe 1-2 Seasons away)

And this is just my team


  
paulo187
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Posted on 2016-01-26 19:08:45
Kyle sims is a long way from UKNT standard

Matthewson just doesn't have age on his side. By the time the WC games actually come around he will be significantly worse than he is now
  
Dan22
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Posted on 2016-01-26 19:13:04
Maybe it might be worth having a re think on that maybe?

Is it because he is not over 30? Or is it something else with him?
  
 
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