Daudy wrote: RE: CB 20 stam, I think a lot of it was also being covered by other personnel in defending (much like if others had bad consistency rolls) - it's hardly him having a bad game and then suddenly being able to walk all over the defence. Also, who is to say this bug is a coinflip, it could very much be something that doesn't happen all that often (or I did get lucky because it might happen to everybody more regularly). The bug hitting definitely never means you auto win against, and it, as far as I can see, isn't necessarily 50/50. Subsequently, it's pretty cool to see you going and tabulating his figures to see maybe what frequency it does hit

Every game where I saw the stam 20 hit him, if you look at the WR/TE on that side, they always have huge games, at least one of them anyway, usually the WR especially, as you'd expect.

Just having a look over the Palma Pirates season (Div 1 ASE) - he has wisely sold every stam 20 player from this game and both OTs have retired!

I'm getting through to some!

So by the Pirates last game of the season they had cut all of those players that bombed in that Cup game.

So that was 2 OTs, 2CBs, 1SF, 2LBs and a DE. Quite an overhaul but he's back on track!

That season he only gave up over 60 pts (other than the winds game where the winds botted and so there was relax) to the Crusaders in round 2 and it was, of course, due to stam 20. He rarely gave up over 50 in fact.

In that crusaders game he still had some stam 20s - 1OT, 1TE (Ronne), 1LB (Ronne) and 1 CB.

Looks like he woke right up after that 1 since they're now all gone.

The thing is though, no matter how many players are stam 20, it seems to make it no more likely to happen than if there's only 1. Just that the more you have the more devastating it will be when it does inevitably hit!

Pretty amazing that he had stam 20 players on his team nearly all season and only got stung once in league play. Seems deadly for Cup campaigns by comparison.

hosh13 wrote: Grose lit you up, but once again, not enough. I wonder if the Cats passed down the middle - Grose might have played that well anyway I suppose - McLeod had a great game too. Again, just not great enough.

I think maybe something to do with it is how terrible passing both down flanks is (or at least, how terribly inconsistent it is for me ). I never really bothered too much about Rey, as the rest of him was pretty good. I think I would have worried more if it was an LB. TEs are pretty beastly in this game.

I honestly can't remember if he was already 20 stamina. I think I trained him to that, but I can't be entirely sure. He spent 101 weeks on my team, so I reckon I probably did one day pop him before really noticing the 1* 20 stam simultaneous drops in other people's games. I think another big factor in determining whether or not he got struck down, was the lack of a 2nd 20 stamina player to confirm it was a hit. That's the only reason why I pointed it out in the first place as a pattern, because they would all drop together. There's always risks basing stuff off one player, particularly in an environment (match ratings) which rarely makes any sense going up or down.