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5 Star Talent Advantages
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Orangatang
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Posted on 2012-10-03 10:24:01
Hi all Managers, moderators, admins and extinguished guests!

I was wondering on the advantages of a 5 star TALENTED player?

I know a 4.5 star TALENTED player will eventually be a 5 star rated player, but, i need to know whats the main advantages of a 5 star talent over a 4 star talent. Some managers seem to think its the same value to sell their players. I would prefer 5 star because it sounds elite. But could someone give me a well rounded opinion or characterized pro/con scenario of the advantages of a 5 star player, please.

I think it increases the game day rating depending on the consistency of the player. so if it is true a 5 star player would have better game day ratings (average) than a 4.5 star talented player...Cheers.
  
1934lions
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Posted on 2012-10-03 13:31:15
The most obvious thing is that max skills can go to 20, rather than 19 for a 4.5 talent. BPOS maxes at 5 for both, so no difference there.
  
projectrracing
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Posted on 2012-10-03 13:35:04
next to no difference between 4.5 and 5.0.

it does not effect game day ratings in any way.

both can get to 20 skill easily. one will just have a 1 in 3 chance going from 19 to 20.
  
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Posted on 2012-10-03 13:35:36
1934lions wrote:

The most obvious thing is that max skills can go to 20, rather than 19 for a 4.5 talent. BPOS maxes at 5 for both, so no difference there.




4.5 talent skills can go to 20 as well, it just may take a bit longer.


From FAQ:
7. Is it possible for a player to go above his maximum?
It is possible, it's just that much harder for the player to achieve that.
If a player is at his maximum then he has 1 in 3 chance to gain a point/level.
If a player is at his maximum + 1 then he has 1 in 5 chance to gain a point/level.
If a player is at his maximum + 2 then he has 1 in 10 chance to gain a point/level.
If a player is at his maximum + 3 then he has 1 in 20 chance to gain a point/level.
It is impossible for a player to go more than 4 above his maximum.



So, there's really no difference between 4.5* and 5* talent players. The difference between a 3.5*/4* talent and 4.5*/5* talent is the extra .5* BPOS rating. And in my experience, that .5* does make a big difference.
  
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Posted on 2012-10-03 13:53:45
A 5 star ]i]could go for a bit more money, but that and the fact that getting to 20 is a bit harder are the only differences between 4½ and 5.
  
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hosh13
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Posted on 2012-10-04 3:03:20
projectrracing wrote:

next to no difference between 4.5 and 5.0.

it does not effect game day ratings in any way.

both can get to 20 skill easily. one will just have a 1 in 3 chance going from 19 to 20.



Yeah, a quick scout of the WC semi-finalists will show that.
  
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Posted on 2012-10-04 8:29:28
But one has to ask the question of the benefit for hitting 20...

Economy:
Hitting 20 will cost you $100.000 a week compared to hitting 19 ($85.000/week) or 18 ($70.000/week). Stopping at 17 is actually better... only around $57.000/week, which could give you two players for the cost of one at 20. Remember - $100.000 a week is almost 2 million a season and that is the same you make in a good home game. (Of which you only have 9 excl. Cup).

Performance:
Does a 20 catching player perform better than a 17 catching player? I have not seen it on those players I can see (as NT and owner). Passing is so much more up to the QB as I see it. When we look at the other positions, I see no better performance from 20 tackling or blocking players than for guys with 17-19.

Sell value:
Would you buy a player with a wage of $100.000/week? Or would you double that transfer sum for a 4½ (or even 4) star talent player with 17 in skill? I would. 5 star players go too high and the little benefit there is in capping (more easily) to 20 is almost null.

So... Are there any advantages to 5 star players? No. Disadvantages... hmmm... yes. I know there is at least one less bidder out there for them, since I will not break the bank for them.
  
"Quarterbacks should wear a dress." - Jack Lambert

If you are ever feeling down, just know that neither of Dorfenschmirtz's parents showed up to his birth.
newton1412
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Posted on 2012-10-04 8:52:46
SrednaD wrote:

But one has to ask the question of the benefit for hitting 20...

Economy:
Hitting 20 will cost you $100.000 a week compared to hitting 19 ($85.000/week) or 18 ($70.000/week). Stopping at 17 is actually better... only around $57.000/week, which could give you two players for the cost of one at 20. Remember - $100.000 a week is almost 2 million a season and that is the same you make in a good home game. (Of which you only have 9 excl. Cup).

Performance:
Does a 20 catching player perform better than a 17 catching player? I have not seen it on those players I can see (as NT and owner). Passing is so much more up to the QB as I see it. When we look at the other positions, I see no better performance from 20 tackling or blocking players than for guys with 17-19.

Sell value:
Would you buy a player with a wage of $100.000/week? Or would you double that transfer sum for a 4½ (or even 4) star talent player with 17 in skill? I would. 5 star players go too high and the little benefit there is in capping (more easily) to 20 is almost null.

So... Are there any advantages to 5 star players? No. Disadvantages... hmmm... yes. I know there is at least one less bidder out there for them, since I will not break the bank for them.



The talent level limits the maximum skill level, not the minimum. Just because you can train them to 20 doesn't mean you should. I buy 4.5/5* players because of the extra BPOS they can get. This extra BPOS clearly effects game day performance but not salary costs at all. I have no intention of letting any of them get to 20 in skills.
  
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Posted on 2012-10-04 9:35:17
newton1412 wrote:


The talent level limits the maximum skill level, not the minimum. Just because you can train them to 20 doesn't mean you should. I buy 4.5/5* players because of the extra BPOS they can get. This extra BPOS clearly effects game day performance but not salary costs at all. I have no intention of letting any of them get to 20 in skills.



Exactly my point, but I think I should have taken one more cup of coffee before I emptied my thoughts on the forum.

That extra BPOS is the winner.
  
"Quarterbacks should wear a dress." - Jack Lambert

If you are ever feeling down, just know that neither of Dorfenschmirtz's parents showed up to his birth.
viktor
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Posted on 2012-10-07 2:32:42
SrednaD wrote:

But one has to ask the question of the benefit for hitting 20...

Economy:
Hitting 20 will cost you $100.000 a week compared to hitting 19 ($85.000/week) or 18 ($70.000/week). Stopping at 17 is actually better... only around $57.000/week, which could give you two players for the cost of one at 20. Remember - $100.000 a week is almost 2 million a season and that is the same you make in a good home game. (Of which you only have 9 excl. Cup).

dont train beyond the skills they have then u d save about 50000 each week over training them to 17
  
 
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