jack6 wrote: calum wrote: amazing. I always thought it was, using your analogy, that a player with 20 con always plays at 10*, but a player with 1 con plays between 8* and 10*. In a way then, lower consistency can make your team better, on any given sunday... Yes, but this is not valid for players with primary skill 20. The skill + positiv bonus can only be 20 or less.

Hah, to quote yourself, NOBODY KNOWS and thats the beauty of it

kong_kaj wrote: jack6 wrote: calum wrote: amazing. I always thought it was, using your analogy, that a player with 20 con always plays at 10*, but a player with 1 con plays between 8* and 10*. In a way then, lower consistency can make your team better, on any given sunday... Yes, but this is not valid for players with primary skill 20. The skill + positiv bonus can only be 20 or less. Hah, to quote yourself, NOBODY KNOWS and thats the beauty of it

Look into the breakthroughs first page. There it is stated by the admins.

Of course you can quote me regarding the "not everything the admins said is correct" stuff, but in this case I thinks it's true, 20 is the maximum.

jack6 wrote: newton1412 wrote: jack6 wrote: calum wrote: amazing. I always thought it was, using your analogy, that a player with 20 con always plays at 10*, but a player with 1 con plays between 8* and 10*. In a way then, lower consistency can make your team better, on any given sunday... Yes, but this is not valid for players with primary skill 20. The skill + positiv bonus can only be 20 or less. The comment in the FAQ refers to starting match rating. My assumption, which could well be wrong, would therefore be that consistency effects the BPOS not the actual skills. This is, as far as I know, still not solved. My guess is, that this effects every skill, maybe including bpos. But who knows. My point is: if your player has maximum skills in terms of game engine limits (20 on skills, 5* on BPOS) , you don't get a bonus on top.

I think consistency effects the pre game rating, and the pre game rating consists of BPOS as well as all the other stuff, so I guess youre right... But thats exactly how its supposed to work, to simulate an off day it has to effect everything..

Yes, you are absolutely right, if a player has 20 on every important skill and 5* BPOS PLUS 5* pre game rating, he doesnt get a bonus on top of that.. The thing is (at least for QB, different for ex. OL) its rather hard to get 5* pre game rating.. I dont know of any QB that gets it with high cons.. It seems like 4,5* PGR is the limit (and sometimes easily obtained with 7+ in skills), but I would love to see a guy playing any position score 5* pre game rating with 16-20 cons.. Cause if there is a guy I have to change the theory a bit

This might or might not be true, nevertheless it seems like the step from 4,5* to 5* is harder to obtain than any other half star, and for that reason I think that cons might not be a thing that limits your players skills so he can only play from 20 to 16 instead of 24 to 16.. I think it can be exactly what it was intended to - the spice..
I think that is bad logic to define cons using the skill scale (game engine wise ), since cons is not affecting skills, but pre game rating..
Low cons might not be that big a downside if you use it to your advantage..

Btw. I dont think high cons QB's are overrated, after all it is nice to know what you get every week, I just think that low or middle (depending on use) cons QBs are underrated

Thanks, forgot to answer

Serrie wrote: kong_kaj wrote: but I would love to see a guy playing any position score 5* pre game rating with 16-20 cons.. Cause if there is a guy I have to change the theory a bit http://www.grid-iron.org/index.php?page=match&match_id=470428&action=stats Bosko Dadic SKILLS Positioning 16,18 Tackling 6,37 Punting 6,26 Vision 7,20 Blocking 19,29 Speed 11,79 Intelligence 4 Passing 4,20 Strength 19,20 Footwork 12,68 Catching 3,72 Agility 4,40 Carrying 2,62 Kicking 1,09 Stamina 1,81 WEIGHT & HEIGHT Weight (kg) 160 Height (cm) 188 BMI 45.1 OTHER Teamwork 5 Consistency 17 Weeks at club 113

At least I didnt forget the actual answer, only to reply

Serrie wrote: I'll set a reminder to answer your answer in 11 days kong_kaj wrote: Thanks, forgot to answer Serrie wrote: kong_kaj wrote: but I would love to see a guy playing any position score 5* pre game rating with 16-20 cons.. Cause if there is a guy I have to change the theory a bit http://www.grid-iron.org/index.php?page=match&match_id=470428&action=stats Bosko Dadic SKILLS Positioning 16,18 Tackling 6,37 Punting 6,26 Vision 7,20 Blocking 19,29 Speed 11,79 Intelligence 4 Passing 4,20 Strength 19,20 Footwork 12,68 Catching 3,72 Agility 4,40 Carrying 2,62 Kicking 1,09 Stamina 1,81 WEIGHT & HEIGHT Weight (kg) 160 Height (cm) 188 BMI 45.1 OTHER Teamwork 5 Consistency 17 Weeks at club 113