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home advantage - too much !?
 
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)EnefelGI Supporter
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Posted on 2025-01-25 16:48:28
hi, I've been playing in the central europe top division for a long time, which seems to me to be a very tough competition (more than the aflc) and I wonder: am I the only one who thinks that the home advantage is too much?

the regional cup matches seem much more interesting to me and there is no home advantage there, while in the championship the advantage is present, but too much...

I would suggest:
1) eliminating it completely in the championship too
2) or: leaving it active only for the first 2 halves.
3) or: trying to reduce it by 50% compared to the current one.

What do you think?

Gi community, what are your feelings?
  
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Posted on 2025-01-25 16:59:51
É algo meio complexo isso de eliminar a vantagem de jogar em casa. Visto que de fato o torcida faz uma diferença enorme. A sua sugestão sobre considerar o fator casa apenas em dois tempos eu sou totalmente contra, pois um time pode começar perdendo por 2-3 TDS e depois de uma jogada ou uma campanha a torcida entra no jogo e começa a pressionar o adversário
  
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Posted on 2025-01-25 17:03:51
DonCalafas wrote:

É algo meio complexo isso de eliminar a vantagem de jogar em casa. Visto que de fato o torcida faz uma diferença enorme. A sua sugestão sobre considerar o fator casa apenas em dois tempos eu sou totalmente contra, pois um time pode começar perdendo por 2-3 TDS e depois de uma jogada ou uma campanha a torcida entra no jogo e começa a pressionar o adversário



I don't quite understand: would you choose point 1, therefore eliminating it completely? Right?
  
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Posted on 2025-01-25 17:50:23
I can see eliminating it completely simply for balancing purposes, but I think at the end of the day some form of it should still be implemented because of how big it can be (in real life anyway).

I would say maybe instead of making it the first 2 halves of the game make it the last 2 halves of the game where it matters. Maybe to simulate that home advantage really shows itself when both teams are running out of steam. That important "morale boost."
  
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Posted on 2025-01-25 20:24:18
It needs to be toned down for sure. I think I read somewhere that in the NFL the home field advantage is worth +3 points. Here it is more like +14 points and so it is definitely excessive. Any decent team that runs the ball on every down (thus removing the chance of turnovers) is going to win 9 times out of 10 while playing at home. Not my idea of fun.

Does anybody remember the old "away field advantage" that was being used with the previous engine? That was probably a much more balanced solution: both teams being equal, there was an advantage for one team but it wasn't so overwhelming and thus the other team could reasonably expect to win 3 or 4 times out of 10 (which sounds about realistic).
  
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Posted on 2025-01-26 18:23:04
AudreyForever wrote:

I think I read somewhere that in the NFL the home field advantage is worth +3 points.



That's correct according to the betting markets and interestingly, it's been this way for decades, regardless of teams and rules.

I've read 14 points in GI a lot but I'm not as sure if it's correct, especially since it feels like (no science behind that) that it varies from season to season to some degree in the CE Top Division, which is the most competitive league in GI and therefore it matters most.

I don't hate the Status quo as much as others do, but if we assume it's +14, I think +7 would be enough. There should definitely be a Home Field Advantage, since there is one in real life. The infamous Home Field Disadvantage in GI for some time was very stupid in my opinion.
  
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Posted on 2025-01-26 18:56:28
The Away Field Advantage of the old engine was a bug obviously, it should have been the other way around. Anyway, my impression is that it was worth like +7 points and then they decided to make it twice as strong with the current engine.

I maintain it should probably be nerfed. To me it does not make a lot of sense to see teams that are 7-0 at home and 0-7 on the road or something like that. At the end of the day, however, it is not that big of a deal and for sure there are more pressing improvements that the devs should be looking at.
  
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Posted on 2025-01-26 22:56:54
liberalmente wrote:

AudreyForever wrote:

I think I read somewhere that in the NFL the home field advantage is worth +3 points.



I don't hate the Status quo as much as others do, but if we assume it's +14, I think +7 would be enough. There should definitely be a Home Field Advantage, since there is one in real life. The infamous Home Field Disadvantage in GI for some time was very stupid in my opinion.



Concordo completamente, não acredito que o caminho seja eliminar essa vantagem de jogar em casa, mas de fato diminuir.
  
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Posted on 2025-01-26 22:57:35
Enefel wrote:

DonCalafas wrote:

É algo meio complexo isso de eliminar a vantagem de jogar em casa. Visto que de fato o torcida faz uma diferença enorme. A sua sugestão sobre considerar o fator casa apenas em dois tempos eu sou totalmente contra, pois um time pode começar perdendo por 2-3 TDS e depois de uma jogada ou uma campanha a torcida entra no jogo e começa a pressionar o adversário



I don't quite understand: would you choose point 1, therefore eliminating it completely? Right?



Eu acredito que seja mais sensato o ponto 3.
  
 
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