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Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)Monty PythonGI Supporter
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Posted on 2021-01-04 21:43:32
After many accusations and bad comments about how I got the last championship -within a league divided Romanians, Serbians and Croatians- in the last round of the League there was a splendid game Petrovgrad Ravens105 - 0 Klek Ravens between the first and the third team in the league. Unfortunately Klek lost by the emphatic 105-0 and after that the Petrovgrad managed to get totally more points and touchdowns than me. I reported the game to admins but there will be nothing than oblivion.

Please do enjoy that fabulous and at the same time neglected game.

Happy new Year with health and happiness to all of you and your beloved persons.

Greetings from Leros Island, Greece.
  

Timeo Danaos et Dona Ferentes!

hemoroid
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Posted on 2021-01-05 11:53:21
Sucks when it happens to you, doesn't it?

So what's the difference between your last game of the previous season, when you've won league title by points differential, and the one you invoke now? In both cases same team, Klek Ravens, "forgot to set tactics". You were advantaged by this the first time and disadvantaged now.

  
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Posted on 2021-01-06 10:37:58
In any case I won the last season because I had the best team in the region and a big amount of money to cover the expenses of that fabulous roster. Im the only Greek in the whole region and all the others with lots of teams from the same country have to compete me.

As Homer used to write - Timeo Danaos et donna ferentes.

Happy new year to the Serbians, Croatians and Romanians who tried to be worthless obstacles to Athens Hammers N' Sickles.
  

Timeo Danaos et Dona Ferentes!

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Posted on 2021-01-06 14:36:29
You can brag all you want, the facts are you've won the league because Klek Ravens played bot tactics in the last round. The tactics you played in that game, 100% Rush, you've only used in that season once in the league and that was against Kosovo (bot team), and other bots you faced in the cup. It's obvious to everyone what happened, you knew Klek was going to play bot and you played to run the score to be sure. And now when someone else does exactly the same thing you're whining on the forum. Is that textbook hypocrisy or what?
  
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Posted on 2021-01-06 17:48:21
Besides the fact that you are moron because you cursed me privately, in that particular game I set pass in the first attempt, run in the second, pass in the third. Now get a happiness out of your misery life and enjoy me playing in AFLC for as much as I want.Last edited on 2021-01-20 at 21:05
  

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Posted on 2021-01-06 19:13:27
I did not curse you, I just called you what you are, a "damn cheater", you got exposed buddy, anyone can check the game in question and see for themselves, it doesn't get more obvious than that.

Yes, I can see you're doing a great job in the AFLC 7th place in the group and you have the 2nd highest wages in the entire game they don't play bot tactics there, do they?

Don't worry about my life, I'm doing quite well, I don't have to cheat in an online game to feel good about myself, unlike others!
  
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Posted on 2021-01-08 4:45:06
hemoroid wrote:

I did not curse you, I just called you what you are, a "damn cheater", you got exposed buddy, anyone can check the game in question and see for themselves, it doesn't get more obvious than that.

Yes, I can see you're doing a great job in the AFLC 7th place in the group and you have the 2nd highest wages in the entire game they don't play bot tactics there, do they?

Don't worry about my life, I'm doing quite well, I don't have to cheat in an online game to feel good about myself, unlike others!



Sorry, but setting tactics and guessing what your upcoming opponent might do is part of the game. Guessing correctly or getting lucky is not cheating. Now, if he also controlled the Klek Ravens team and intentionally botted them for that game to help, then that would be cheating. But since his original post is whining about the Klek Ravens botting against another team, thus hurting his chances of winning the league this season, I would say it's safe to assume he doesn't control both teams.

Monty Python wrote:

After many accusations and bad comments about how I got the last championship -within a league divided Romanians, Serbians and Croatians- in the last round of the League there was a splendid game Petrovgrad Ravens105 - 0 Klek Ravens between the first and the third team in the league. Unfortunately Klek lost by the emphatic 105-0 and after that the Petrovgrad managed to get totally more points and touchdowns than me. I reported the game to admins but there will be nothing than oblivion.

Please do enjoy that fabulous and at the same time neglected game.

Happy new Year with health and happiness to all of you and your beloved persons.

Greetings from Leros Island, Greece.



I hope you have more evidence than just this game. It's entirely possible something fishy may be going on, but reporting someone as cheating just because a team botted and it hurt your chances is pretty weak. There are several legitimate reasons why a team may bot. Injury, sell a player, or got busy with real life and forgot to set lineup. I know these are all possible because I have done them all myself at some point.

It's hard enough to get admins to do something about actual cheaters. Why waste their time over something petty like a botted game when that's all you've got.
  
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Posted on 2021-01-08 10:37:50
PHI 21 wrote:


Sorry, but setting tactics and guessing what your upcoming opponent might do is part of the game. Guessing correctly or getting lucky is not cheating. Now, if he also controlled the Klek Ravens team and intentionally botted them for that game to help, then that would be cheating. But since his original post is whining about the Klek Ravens botting against another team, thus hurting his chances of winning the league this season, I would say it's safe to assume he doesn't control both teams.



Let's be real, you can't "guess" when your non-bot opponent "forgets" to set the tactics. My argument above was based on the tactics used during the season, the tactic he used in the last round game was previously used only agains bots (and he lied when he said he played pass on the first down, I've posted the link to the game in question for convenience)


PHI 21 wrote:


I hope you have more evidence than just this game.



Well, let's check the first game between those two teams from this season!
Round 3: Klek Ravens 7 - 84 Petrovgrad Ravens
What a surprise, Klek played bot tactics again.

Here's a quick highlight of the games played between these 3 teams in the recent seasons

Season 34
Round 3: Klek Ravens 7 - 84 Petrovgrad Ravens
Klek plays bot DEF and OFF
Round 12: Petrovgrad Ravens 105 - 0 Klek Ravens
Klek plays bot DEF and OFF

Season 33
Round 4: Athens Hammers n' Sickles 105 - 70 Petrovgrad Ravens
Petrovgrad plays bot DEF
Round 18: Athens Hammers n' Sickles 112 - 0 Klek Ravens
Klek plays bot DEF and OFF

Athens finished the season 14 - 4, tied with another team, Iasi Sevens, and won the league title by point differential, so having two easy games was a HUGE factor in this


Season 32
Round 12: Petrovgrad Ravens 0 - 44 Klek Ravens
Petrovgrad plays bot OFF


Season 31
Round 16 Petrovgrad Ravens 84 - 0 Klek Ravens
Klek plays bot DEF and OFF


I'm sure more can be found if you dig deeper, but I think this proves my point that it's no accident or coincidence, we have a cheating trio in the Balkan Top Division. Whenever there's something at stake they help each other by playing bot tactics.
They don't have to be controlled by the same person, they could just be buddies and now one of them got mad and decided to play the victim's card on the forum because now when they are in direct competition his partners screwed him over.