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National Anthem Protests
 
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)squarebearGI Supporter
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Posted on 2017-09-24 19:10:42
I'm reading an awful lot about planned protests during the anthem ahead of the Week 3 games.

Presumably this is fueled by Trump's comments about the NFL which has come in the wake of his ambivalent statements on recent fascist/anti-fascist discord.

It's non-football but I really enjoyed this in The Guardian on Stephen Curry:

Curry, a two-time NBA most valuable player and the face of the Warriors franchise, had made his feelings clear when asked to respond to comments from the chief executive of Under Armour, his primary sponsor, that Trump was “a real asset” to the country.

“I agree with that description, if you remove the ‘et’,” Curry said, wryly.


No. NO. Please don't lock this thre-

GAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!

campuscodi
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Posted on 2017-09-25 13:47:13
I'm not from the US, so this whole thing sure looks silly to me. Why are you playing the national anthem before a game to begin with? You're probably the only country that does this for internal games.
rjmass05
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Posted on 2017-09-25 13:58:51
campuscodi wrote:

I'm not from the US, so this whole thing sure looks silly to me. Why are you playing the national anthem before a game to begin with? You're probably the only country that does this for internal games.



Haha, funny, I never really thought about that. But here is a good read I found on it, a little of the history of how it got started.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/09/24/how-the-national-anthem-and-subverting-it-became-a-pregame-tradition-in-america/?utm_term=.d7dfbcdd7279
Whammy Business
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Posted on 2017-09-25 14:47:38
campuscodi wrote:

I'm not from the US, so this whole thing sure looks silly to me. Why are you playing the national anthem before a game to begin with? You're probably the only country that does this for internal games.



As an American citizen, I find the playing of the national anthem before relatively inconsequential events like sports games a little peculiar as well. Similarly, having school kids recite the pledge of allegiance borders on creepy. Both, in my opinion, are contrived patriotism and have little to do with respecting anything or anyone.

I think both sides of the debate are foolish. The rest of the NFL has co-opted Colin Kaepernick's well-meaning, if not misguided, protest because Donald Trump hurt their feelings. These are millionaires who could effect real change if they talked with their wallets. Some of them do. Others live a lifestyle that will render them penniless after they stop playing. The neckbeards in the stands booing are just as silly.
hosh13
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Posted on 2017-09-26 2:30:53
They've all been free to piss off back to Africa for what, 150 years? What are they all sticking around for?

Bunch of precious ebony!

The fans should start boycotting the game in protest - I don't tune into a football game to watch a bunch of precious little privileged children chuck an unfounded tantrum! They should be flogged!
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Posted on 2017-09-26 7:08:27
Hmm.

I read a piece this morning about divisive politics having been a part of the Republican Party strategy since Nixon's days.

Trump actually wants players to kneel as it feeds his "us and them" agenda.

No. NO. Please don't lock this thre-

GAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!

AbCat
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Posted on 2017-09-26 8:33:46
hosh13 wrote:

They've all been free to piss off back to Africa for what, 150 years? What are they all sticking around for?

Bunch of precious ebony!

The fans should start boycotting the game in protest - I don't tune into a football game to watch a bunch of precious little privileged children chuck an unfounded tantrum! They should be flogged!



I don't think I could disagree more with this statement. Most Black people in America have longer family histories there than most White people. They have a right to be there, and are right to protest against injustice.

My thoughts are that the protests don't go far enough. Boycott the NFL? Nah, the NFL should boycott America. Move a few franchises to Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean, and if you want to watch a game, stand to the national anthem of Cuba.

American politics is maybe the dumbest thing in the universe. It will drag a perfectly good country and people into civil war, and we're all just hoping here it doesn't drag a few other countries down with it when it does.
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Posted on 2017-09-26 8:50:28
I grew up in USA as a kid and can still for some reason remember the 'Pledge of allegence'. Not that it would in any way make me feel any more patriotic (towards America).

Players should be able to protest. It is their first amendment right to do so and if anyone should be sanctioning them, it should be the owners. Look at how European football (eg soccer on theother side of the ocean) protest. They do it and FIFA (equivelant of NFL commisioner) fines them if needed. But only if they break the written rules. Kneeling while a band and a hopeless X-Factor finalist drags out the American anthem is not breaking a written rule. And anyone that wants to sanction someone breaking an unwritten should know that doing that is impossible because unwritten rules are based on your own subjective belief in what is right and wrong. And here, I state that even though you scipped through college and got a degree only because you are fast and can catch a ball, you might know more about right/wrong than a 'valuable ass(et) to the USA'.

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Posted on 2017-09-26 10:35:32
I agree with AbCat.

The racist undertones - and overtones - are deafening. What has happened to the land of the free?
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Posted on 2017-09-26 20:57:35
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