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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:08:21
BSwagger wrote:

By the way, does anyone know how much you can set a player to gain or lose before you lose training? Is it better to just adjust the weight the maximum each week and not worry about anything else?



The maximum before losing training pts is 5 lbs. This is the one nutrition rule that has supposedly been in effect since the nutrition center was added. I believe somebody tested it and found out that you do indeed lose training pts if you go over 5 lbs per week. I didn't test it so I can't verify that is the case, but since there was no other effect of the nutrition center, I never bothered to check.

It took me a while combing through the forum trying to find this information about the weight limit to effect.
A bit of trivia I discovered along the way, the nutrition center was added to the game on 12/22/10. LOL
  
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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:09:41
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BSwagger wrote:

I wonder if the transfer market is going to heat up for say that OL or DL that is 6-8 and 350 LB?



In the announcement, they are talking about the BMI, not the height and the weight. I'm not sure if they play a part.

As an example:

A 25 BMI RB can be 1.80 (5-11), but also 2.10 (6-7).




Height and Weight effect the upper and lower BMI ranges, in other words, a taller dude can weigh more when BMI is maxed
  

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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:10:53
I have been using my nutrition center all along, just because it's fun to have players be in the proper range for their position. Should be fun
  

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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:12:55
autumn89 wrote:

BSwagger wrote:

I wonder if the transfer market is going to heat up for say that OL or DL that is 6-8 and 350 LB?



In the announcement, they are talking about the BMI, not the height and the weight. I'm not sure if they play a part.

As an example:

A 25 BMI RB can be 1.80 (5-11), but also 2.10 (6-7).





BMI is figured based on the player's height and weight, so they will need to have some effect. Whether the game engine will take height and/or weight into account by themselves will have to be seen later. It's possible that a short WR may still be as effective as a tall WR as long as the BMI affects the speed/strength in the right way for that position.

Since the admin didn't say specifically that height/weight will take effect, I'm going to assume they don't at this time until we get more information. However, I will probably start preparing for them being in use with future players just in case.
  
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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:13:00
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So to answer a key question...

Where is the V3 lads?

Answer - it is coming (like winter allegedly)



I think they will lay low until the complaining starts based on outcomes of games with the changes. Personally, I think this is a game changer for everyone, so everything still remains even and maybe gives a few rising teams a leg up until things get sorted. We shall see
  

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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:14:43
Question I have is do you need to train catching now for your FBs or is this just a random thing, similar to kickoff and punt returns, where there is simply a range they can get regardless of skill level. I can guarantee none of my backs have catching trained
  

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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:15:47
It is great to see some changes coming. I agree that small changes from time to time are better than one big change, mainly due to the big changes never actually working out. LOL

Looking forward to seeing how they affect the game and learning how to best exploit them.
  
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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:18:11
Gatr22 wrote:

Question I have is do you need to train catching now for your FBs or is this just a random thing, similar to kickoff and punt returns, where there is simply a range they can get regardless of skill level. I can guarantee none of my backs have catching trained



My main RB is at 8.71. It means that will be a training focus the rest of this season but he should be serviceable catching.
  
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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:23:35
autumn89 wrote:

BSwagger wrote:

I wonder if the transfer market is going to heat up for say that OL or DL that is 6-8 and 350 LB?



In the announcement, they are talking about the BMI, not the height and the weight. I'm not sure if they play a part.

As an example:

A 25 BMI RB can be 1.80 (5-11), but also 2.10 (6-7).




I get what you are saying but it limits some players being able to take full advantage of both speed and strength. Meaning, if you have an OL that is 5-6 and has 20 strength you will either have to build his BMI to get full strength and lose some potential speed and agility or keep his BMI down and not get full advantage of his 20 strength. That is the way I am seeing it. I recently sold my veteran LB that was a 20/20 speed strength LB but I could never get his BMI set to get both 20 speed and 20 strength. There was always a penalty in one area.
  
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Posted on 2017-05-05 16:53:11
PHI 21 wrote:

BSwagger wrote:

By the way, does anyone know how much you can set a player to gain or lose before you lose training? Is it better to just adjust the weight the maximum each week and not worry about anything else?



The maximum before losing training pts is 5 lbs. This is the one nutrition rule that has supposedly been in effect since the nutrition center was added. I believe somebody tested it and found out that you do indeed lose training pts if you go over 5 lbs per week.



I tried a little experiment with this once, and came to the opposite conclusion:
https://grid-iron.org/community/viewt/20006

Maybe it will be worth trying again once the changes are implemented...
  

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