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Henry, Derrick
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paulo187
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Posted on 2016-11-15 10:38:32
Gatr22 wrote:

paulo187 wrote:

Gatr22 wrote:

Not sure why passing is now the topic, I've never seen Henry pass, even in college.

So far Henry has played 9 games:

62 rushes for 252 yards, a 4.1 YPC average (currently tied or ahead of 17 NFL team averages)
9 receptions for 107 yards, an 11.9 YPC average (currently better than 28 NFL team averages)

Not too shabby for a rookie back up

*Source: NFL Team Rankings



Comparing single players against teams isn't really a true comparison now, is it?

If it does, then Derrick Henry is infinitely worse than himself as the Titans are 2nd in the NFL in YPC, yet he himself is only tied 16th despite playing for the Titans...).



It's certainly relevant. He's playing behind arguably the best back in the NFL, certainly one of the best. He's not as good as the starter, so he's the back up. Seems about right and not too shabby for a rookie



I understand why he is a backup and what a backup is; nowhere in my last post did I question that. I said that comparing a player against a team isn't a true comparison. Please learn to read and comprehend.

Regarding your comparison though, it is still pointless. One thing Henry could (I guess) be proud of is that he's 7th in rookie RBs in yards and YPG, and 9T for YPC. Out of the 9 people tied with or above him (looking at YPC here as a better measure of back vs back to avoid inflation of yards through more carries) , only 7 are backups (taking out Elliott and Howard) making Henry the 7T best backup RB in the NFL. Out of 24 rookie RBs I guess being 7th is something of a win...?
  
Kagemusha
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Posted on 2016-11-15 11:47:19
Henry may not be a good player but I love his ability to spark a discussion:

Man, I didnt think his yardage was that low...

The comparison of his averages with team averages is a marvel, I'm still in awe. Despite comparing favorably to team offenses he is still having bust numbers.

He is 45th in rushing yardage and trails notorious beasts like

Mike Gillislee, who interestingly is the backup to one of the best backs in the league

Cam Newton, even though Newton is concussed half the time

T.J.Yeldon even though he plays for the Jacksonville Embarassements

DeAngelo Williams, who has been dead since week3

DeAndre Washington... WTF... who is this guy?

Jalen Richard, who is the third Oakland back with more yards

Eddie "Triple Bacon Cheesburger" Lacy

Chris Ivory, who is the second Jacksonville back... that's baaaad

Seems like everybody with a pulse can get more yards than Henry

He is 95th in ypc, behind even someone without a pulse, but that is a bogus stat and I bring it up only because Gatr did it first, is obvious that with very few carries you can have a higher average.

His best stat is carries, indeed. He is 39th with his 62 touches. Wait, I thought he wasnt getting going because he had very few carries

His receiving prowess instead puts him in 195th position as far as receiving yards go, and I'm just leaving it here.

  
Kagemusha
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Posted on 2016-11-15 11:49:39
paulo187 wrote:

Out of 24 rookie RBs I guess being 7th is something of a win...?



If you were a 7th rounder or UDFA it would be a win. Less of a win when you are the 2nd player selected at your position.
  
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Posted on 2016-11-16 15:13:54
I love when the trolls resort to insults to feel better for the day. It's great to be awesome, I feel like a super hero when you respond in that manner. While you dwell in your own shortcomings, I will enjoy the irony of you questioning the stats I wish to compare while throwing out equally ridiculous stats and ignoring the most obvious point: Most of you were right with regard to the impact Mr Henry would have this season. Congrats, but I continue to say he will get his chance and based on his numbers in college, he needs 20-25 carries per game. He is a homerun back with tremendous power and deceptive high end speed. If this season has indicated anything, it's that he is not in Murray's league and he's a better pass catcher than most had anticipated.
  

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Posted on 2016-11-16 16:10:02
irony.


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paulo187
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Posted on 2016-11-16 16:20:07
I love when trolls resort to self indulgence to make themselves feel better.

Good thing we're all getting something out of this thread, eh?
  
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Posted on 2016-11-16 17:06:00
shmertnickname wrote:

irony.


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Posted on 2016-11-16 17:23:53
paulo187 wrote:

I love when trolls resort to self indulgence to make themselves feel better.

Good thing we're all getting something out of this thread, eh?



Kind of like you resorting to insults to make yourself feel better.......eh? I mean, my learning to read is really an issue already! My posting of stats, that appear to be poorly related screamed to you, 'I NEED TO ANSWER THIS INSANITY AND QUESTION HIS READING ABILITY, NOW!!!' Versus a more measurable response regarding this ridiculous thread to begin with. Get some more fun in your life and stop it with the poorly veiled insults that obviously have no merit. I would also suggest this is just another thread that should be closed, but I will let another moderator do that, so as not to appear biased in any way. Tick, tock...

Now then, Derrick Henry is the topic, try to stay on point
  

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Posted on 2016-11-16 17:33:17
Kagemusha wrote:

Henry may not be a good player but I love his ability to spark a discussion:

Man, I didnt think his yardage was that low...

The comparison of his averages with team averages is a marvel, I'm still in awe. Despite comparing favorably to team offenses he is still having bust numbers.

He is 45th in rushing yardage and trails notorious beasts like




You do realize there are currently 136 running backs in the NFL?, so maybe not as shameful for a back up as you are suggesting. At the end of the day, myself and others have all acknowledged that Henry has not made the impact that I suggested he would and maybe others thought he would. He is a back up, that's it for now. Let a few years go by and we'll see. Glad to see Gillislee getting some touches, former Gator right there
  

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Posted on 2016-11-16 17:41:15
I haven't posted much in this thread but I believe Henry will be a very good RB. It's going to take a little longer than what I first expected but I don't believe it's because Henry has disappointed but more that DeMarco Murray has shown that he is still a very good RB. Henry's time will come.
  
 
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