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Malus Darrow
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Posted on 2016-01-24 4:12:51
Had a player go down for 28 days on Friday. As of 4 am GI time on Sunday, he's down to 23 days.
  
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Posted on 2016-01-24 19:49:17
Recovery for 18 days:
Friday - 3 days - 15 remaining
Saturday - 2 days - 13 remaining
  

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Posted on 2016-01-25 16:22:41
Recovery for 18 days:
Friday - 3 days - 15 remaining
Saturday - 2 days - 13 remaining
Sunday - 3 days - 10 remaining
  

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Posted on 2016-01-25 17:10:21
Ive seen players go down by 5 days onçe or twice
  

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Posted on 2016-01-25 17:19:38
mrcasado wrote:

Ive seen players go down by 5 days onçe or twice



Impossible, probably a glitch. 4 is the max according to the FAQ section and even that takes two 40% rolls
  

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Posted on 2016-01-28 15:43:39
Recovery for 18 days:
Friday - 3 days - 15 remaining
Saturday - 2 days - 13 remaining
Sunday - 3 days - 10 remaining
Monday - 3 days - 7 remaining
Tuesday - ? - 3-5 remaining
Wednesday - ? - 1 day remaining
Thursday - will be recovered completely

Average recovery per day not including Thursday: 2.83 per day

I can see this will be difficult to evaluate given the fact that we don't know where they are at once they dip below 7. There is only the "good" rating that tells us they have just 1 pt of recovery left. The other two ratings are ranges.
  

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Posted on 2016-01-28 15:44:33
projectrracing wrote:

Gatr22 wrote:

Had a rookie go down for 18 days, so I will track recoveries this season too. In theory, I have always thought 3 per day on average, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the average closer to 2.5 per day

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Posted on 2016-01-28 16:56:30
Gatr22 wrote:

mrcasado wrote:

Ive seen players go down by 5 days onçe or twice



Impossible, probably a glitch. 4 is the max according to the FAQ section and even that takes two 40% rolls



I think if they are successful on both 40% rolls it would give the player a total of 5 days recovery in just 1 day

Fully upgraded Fitness Centre gives a player a 40% chance of skipping 2 days instead of 1 day, so if successful then it's +1 additional day to recovery.

Level 20 Doctors give them a 100% chance of recovering 1 additional day, so that's +1 additional day to recovery guaranteed.

Level 20 doctors give them a 40% chance of recovering 2 additional days. As this is phrased differently from the Fitness centre I think this means a successful roll would give them +2 additional days to recovery rather than skipping 2 days instead of 1 day which would only give them + 1 additional day.

Plus they always recover 1 day as standard.

So if a player is injured on Friday for 20 days then on Saturday he could be on 15 days.
1 day is always recovered as standard which puts him on 19 days.
1 additional day is 100% guaranteed by level 20 doctors which would put him on 18 days.
A successful 40% roll from Doctors would give him 2 additional recovery days putting him on 16 days.
A successful 40% roll from Fitness Centre would skip 2 days instead of the standard 1 day, so that would put him on 15 days.

I think that's right, but potentially the 40% rolls from Fitness Centre and Doctors could actually do exactly the same thing and it's just that the way they're described is wrong.

This is the actual text:

Level 20 Doctors
"Your doctors give an injured player 100% chance to recover 1 additional day and 40% chance to recover 2 additional days during each injury update. They also reduce the potential of training injuries by 50%"

Fitness Centre
"When the fitness center is built, your players get additional 10% on their fitness training points (this works only when training fitness of course). The first upgrade raises this percentage to 15% and the second to 20%. The upgrades also improve the rehabilitation times for your injured players. The first upgrade gives your player 25% more chance every day to skip 2 days towards the full recovery, instead of just 1. The second upgrade raises that chance to 40%."


  
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Posted on 2016-01-28 17:11:56
Phiba wrote:

Gatr22 wrote:

mrcasado wrote:

Ive seen players go down by 5 days onçe or twice



Impossible, probably a glitch. 4 is the max according to the FAQ section and even that takes two 40% rolls



I think if they are successful on both 40% rolls it would give the player a total of 5 days recovery in just 1 day

Fully upgraded Fitness Centre gives a player a 40% chance of skipping 2 days instead of 1 day, so if successful then it's +1 additional day to recovery.

Level 20 Doctors give them a 100% chance of recovering 1 additional day, so that's +1 additional day to recovery guaranteed.

Level 20 doctors give them a 40% chance of recovering 2 additional days. As this is phrased differently from the Fitness centre I think this means a successful roll would give them +2 additional days to recovery rather than skipping 2 days instead of 1 day which would only give them + 1 additional day.

Plus they always recover 1 day as standard.

So if a player is injured on Friday for 20 days then on Saturday he could be on 15 days.
1 day is always recovered as standard which puts him on 19 days.
1 additional day is 100% guaranteed by level 20 doctors which would put him on 18 days.
A successful 40% roll from Doctors would give him 2 additional recovery days putting him on 16 days.
A successful 40% roll from Fitness Centre would skip 2 days instead of the standard 1 day, so that would put him on 15 days.

I think that's right, but potentially the 40% rolls from Fitness Centre and Doctors could actually do exactly the same thing and it's just that the way they're described is wrong.

This is the actual text:

Level 20 Doctors
"Your doctors give an injured player 100% chance to recover 1 additional day and 40% chance to recover 2 additional days during each injury update. They also reduce the potential of training injuries by 50%"

Fitness Centre
"When the fitness center is built, your players get additional 10% on their fitness training points (this works only when training fitness of course). The first upgrade raises this percentage to 15% and the second to 20%. The upgrades also improve the rehabilitation times for your injured players. The first upgrade gives your player 25% more chance every day to skip 2 days towards the full recovery, instead of just 1. The second upgrade raises that chance to 40%."




I'm going to respectfully disagree. I've never seen 5 days and I think it's clear that both the doctors explanation and the FAQ fitness center explanation are both talking about the same standard 1 pt gain. So if you get full doctors, then you are 100% guaranteed 2 recovery days. From there you get 2 40% rolls for 3 and then 4, assuming you have fully upgraded fitness center and full doctors. The 2nd day from the doctors 40% roll brings you to 3 days and the 40% roll from the fitness center brings you to 4 days. You aren't guaranteed 1 additional point from the fitness center, it just says 2 instead of the normal 1, so I can't read anything other than they are referencing the standard 1 pt to begin with. We can agree to disagree
  

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Posted on 2016-01-28 17:29:29
Gatr22 wrote:

Phiba wrote:

Gatr22 wrote:

mrcasado wrote:

Ive seen players go down by 5 days onçe or twice



Impossible, probably a glitch. 4 is the max according to the FAQ section and even that takes two 40% rolls



I think if they are successful on both 40% rolls it would give the player a total of 5 days recovery in just 1 day

Fully upgraded Fitness Centre gives a player a 40% chance of skipping 2 days instead of 1 day, so if successful then it's +1 additional day to recovery.

Level 20 Doctors give them a 100% chance of recovering 1 additional day, so that's +1 additional day to recovery guaranteed.

Level 20 doctors give them a 40% chance of recovering 2 additional days. As this is phrased differently from the Fitness centre I think this means a successful roll would give them +2 additional days to recovery rather than skipping 2 days instead of 1 day which would only give them + 1 additional day.

Plus they always recover 1 day as standard.

So if a player is injured on Friday for 20 days then on Saturday he could be on 15 days.
1 day is always recovered as standard which puts him on 19 days.
1 additional day is 100% guaranteed by level 20 doctors which would put him on 18 days.
A successful 40% roll from Doctors would give him 2 additional recovery days putting him on 16 days.
A successful 40% roll from Fitness Centre would skip 2 days instead of the standard 1 day, so that would put him on 15 days.

I think that's right, but potentially the 40% rolls from Fitness Centre and Doctors could actually do exactly the same thing and it's just that the way they're described is wrong.

This is the actual text:

Level 20 Doctors
"Your doctors give an injured player 100% chance to recover 1 additional day and 40% chance to recover 2 additional days during each injury update. They also reduce the potential of training injuries by 50%"

Fitness Centre
"When the fitness center is built, your players get additional 10% on their fitness training points (this works only when training fitness of course). The first upgrade raises this percentage to 15% and the second to 20%. The upgrades also improve the rehabilitation times for your injured players. The first upgrade gives your player 25% more chance every day to skip 2 days towards the full recovery, instead of just 1. The second upgrade raises that chance to 40%."




I'm going to respectfully disagree. I've never seen 5 days and I think it's clear that both the doctors explanation and the FAQ fitness center explanation are both talking about the same standard 1 pt gain. So if you get full doctors, then you are 100% guaranteed 2 recovery days. From there you get 2 40% rolls for 3 and then 4, assuming you have fully upgraded fitness center and full doctors. The 2nd day from the doctors 40% roll brings you to 3 days and the 40% roll from the fitness center brings you to 4 days. You aren't guaranteed 1 additional point from the fitness center, it just says 2 instead of the normal 1, so I can't read anything other than they are referencing the standard 1 pt to begin with. We can agree to disagree



Yeah I agree to disagree

I think our difference in opinion is just coming from how the Fitness Centre FAQ and level 20 doctors blurbs are written i.e. whether they both result in the same outcome or not. A lot of stuff in the FAQ is quite misleading or poorly written so it's definitely not worth having an argument about. I'm still waiting to be able to build parking spaces for my stadium

  
 
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